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Namespaces Article Talk. Views Read Edit View history. Help Learn to edit Community portal Recent changes Upload file. Download as PDF Printable version. John Alagia. Wade Stuart Mathis. Anything that is the object complement of "between" or any other preposition is not the subject of a verb. OK, time for the linguist to take over: If it's so simple, why do so many people have so much trouble getting it right? These same people would never say, "Take a picture of I" or "Give it to I.
This isn't evidence of the woeful state of English language education. People, often quite literate people, have been doing this for centuries. More than years ago, Shakespeare had a character in The Merchant of Venice say, "All debts are cleared between you and I.
Examples between then and now abound. The obvious fact is that the simple rule is not automatic, even if you grew up speaking English. Help Learn to edit Community portal Recent changes Upload file. Download as PDF Printable version. Warner Bros. Alice Cooper , Dick Wagner. Weekly charts [ edit ] Chart Peak position Australia. France IFOP . You're right when you say that I should be used in the nominative and me in English's oblique or objective case, usually as an object of the verb phrase, but also of a prepositional phrase.
A case where you and I is incorrect is when the pronoun is the object of the the preposition between. All normal rules regarding the nominative are superseded here by the preposition. People using you and I in this case, after an oblique preposition, are overgeneralizing the rule that you ought to say it instead of you and me. In standard English only between you and me is acceptable; between is a preposition and takes the objective case us , me , him , her , them.
None the less, between you and I is not uncommon in non-standard varieties of English. In particular, it might be entirely appropriate in dialogue, depending on the characters using it.
Between is a preposition, just as on, above, over, and of are prepositions. So, instead of acting alone, prepositions are part of prepositional phrases. In those example sentences, between you and me and on July 5 are prepositional phrases. And it's just a rule that pronouns following prepositions in those phrases are always in the objective case 1.
When you're using the objective case, the correct pronoun is me, so the correct prepositional phrase is between you and me. The simplest way of dealing with this I find is to remove the second object in this case Mary and then rework the sentence atound a single object in this a disputed first person singular pronoun and check which works and substitue that into your original sentence.
If that method doesn't work, perhaps becuase it sounds clumsy, then just reword then the sentence to isolate the first person singular, then check and substitute. The addition here does not alter the meaning or grammar, or affect of the word between but gives us structure to do this:. I just thought I'd post a different view, since I don't see it represented here in any of the previous answers.
You can see a bit more information about this in F. Of course, from a prescriptivist standpoint, "between you and I" is clearly considered incorrect: this is separate from the matter of whether it is accurate to describe it as a "hypercorrection".
I think there is an influence of Jamaican philosophy in using I instead of me. From Wikipedia Iyaric :. I replaces "me", which is much more commonly used in Jamaican English than in the more conventional forms. Me is felt to turn the person into an object whereas I emphasises the subjectivity of an individual. I is important in the normally objective phrase and therefore the subconscious feels that using I expresses the correct meaning. Sign up to join this community. The best answers are voted up and rise to the top.
Home Questions Tags Users Unanswered. Ask Question. Asked 10 years, 1 month ago. Active 2 years, 4 months ago. Viewed 1. Palavuzlar Aug 16 '10 at As simple tip to understand which one to use, remove "you and" in the sentence, and see if the sentence is still correct apart from the verbs that need to be changed from plural to singular.
This tip doesn't seem to work in the sentence "I don't see any reason for you and X to meet by Skype. Active Oldest Votes. In this case, the error that's being avoided is the error of writing "you and me" in subject position, as in the following sentence: You and me are going to the store.
That is, they incorrectly learn the rule about when to use "you and I", and so produce sentences like the following: You and I are going to the store. Retrieved March 16, Retrieved March 16, — via robertchristgau. New York Post. The Daily Beast. The Paley Center for Media. March 11, They wanted to change You and Me -- Forty Years Later".
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